Episode Guide

Episode 9 – Danielle DiMartino Booth Dropping The Economic Truth (& It’s Not Pretty)

In this episode, Matthew speaks to Danielle DiMartino Booth. Danielle is the Founder & Chief Strategist of Quill Intelligence, a boutique research firm. Danielle is a leading global thought leader in economics and finance and always brings nuggets of truth wrapped in data & wit.  In this conversation Matthew and Danielle, discuss the following:

  • Current US unemployment rates, jobs data & PPP
  • The pending insolvency crisis in the US
  • Shifting political sands
  • US-China Relationships
  • Zombie companies
  • Looming pension crisis
  • Much much more!

You can find Danielle here:

Danielle’s Book:

Fed Up: An Insider’s Take on Why the Federal Reserve Is Bad for America 

Additional essential reading:

Raoul Pal COVID19 Economic thesis:


Zombie Company Primer:


Case Study: Hertz Zombie


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Episode 8 – Is the pending global recession, really because of COVID19? Learn more with Paul Hodges

This week Matthew speaks to Paul Hodges, former Executive Director of ICI, one of the world’s largest chemicals companies. We talk about a lot, but the main thing is this: contrary to popular beliefs, the upcoming global recession is NOT directly because of COVID19. Listen to learn more about this and the following:

·        Past recessions predictions

·        Upcoming downturn

·        Pending age demographic cliff

·        Oil price crash

·        Business opportunities in the new normal

·        Much more

Paul can be found here and the resources he shared:

Paul’s Book: Boom, Gloom and the New Normal  https://amzn.to/2Cduz2d


Sign up for Pauls Free Newsletter, its worth its weight in gold.


Additional Reading:

Peter Zeihan https://zeihan.com/newsletter/

Enjoy the show!

Episode 7 – The future of the office space, with Peter Boeckel

Matthew speaks to Peter Boeckel, Design Manager with Steelcase, a company that designs and builds office architecture, furniture and technology products and services.

Matthew & Peter explore what the return to office work could like for many and the new normal we will have to get used to, post COVID19.  They discuss topics like:

We talk about:

·        Agile workspaces

·        Hot Desking

·        Remote working 

You can find Peter here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterboeckel/

Links to his articles:
Work from Home. Work from Anywhere.

Where to from here? Prototyping our way to the new post-COVID-19 normal

The COVID-19 Design Effect...

The Resources he shared:

Steelcase Guide – Navigating What’s Next

The Nature Podcast

An interesting article by Cal Newport

Why Remote Work Is So Hard—and How It Can Be Fixed

Enjoy the show!

Episode 6 – Did lifestyle choices in the West lead to the explosion of COVID19? With Dr Nicole Saphier

In this episode, Matthew talks to Dr Nicole Saphier M.D about how poor lifestyle choices over the last 60 years left the West vulnerable to COVID 19.

We talk about:

  • What comorbidities are and the impact on COVID19 patients
  • The impact of missed elective surgeries during the lockdown
  • The lifestyle choices that have left us vulnerable
  • Unintended consequences of government-driven health care policies
  • Areas of concerns and issues moving forward

Nicole is available here:

Nicoles Book: Make America Healthy Again

Website, Twitter & Instagram.

Enjoy the show!

Episode 5 – What is contact tracing? Talking to Health Tech CEO & Co-Founder, Peter Ellen

In this episode, Matthew talks to Peter Ellen, CEO & Cofounder of Unicity Ventures. This is essential listening for all to get the lowdown on contract tracing and make sure you are approaching the debate with the right knowledge and framework in mind.  

We talk about:

  • Definition of contact tracing and track & trace
  • Possible solutions & frameworks
  • Areas of concerns and issues moving forward

Resources referred to:

Unicity Ventures contact tracing white paper: https://www.unicity.ventures/covid-19-response

WHO Definition of Track & Trace: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/contact-tracing

Enjoy the show!

You can find Peter here:



Episode 4 – Stephen Moore, Newly Appointed to President Trump’s Coronavirus Task Force

In this episode of the New Normal Show, Matthew is speaking to Stephen Moore, American Economist & Writer. Stephen was Economic Advisor to then Nominee Donald Trump during his 2016 Presidential election campaign. President Trump nominated him in 2019 as his Candidate for the Board of the Federal Reserve. As of 14/04/20, he was appointed t to  Economic Task Force for Recovery (COVID-19) by President Trump.

You can find Stephen here:



Stephen recommends two resources:

I referred to this economic analysis in the conversation: Is a recession more deadly than coronavirus?

It’s by Professor Philip J Thomas at Bristol University.

It’s not peer-reviewed yet, but it’s fascinating and must-read. 

We hope you enjoyed the show and see you next week!

Episode 3 – An Interview With The Host, Matthew Haynes

In this episode, the host of the New Normal Show, Matthew, is interviewed by Toby Kay.  Learn about who Matthew is and why he is making the New Normal Show.  Welcome, to the journey.

Episode 2 – COVID-19 Timeline

Matthew, the host of the New Normal Show, gives you a reverse-chronological timeline of the Pandemic. Matthew starts from the earliest known date of COVID-19 outbreak. This will bring you up to date, enabling you to ask the right questions to the upcoming guests.  Sit back, learn and get your thinking cap on. Welcome, to the New Normal Show. 

Episode 1 – Trailer & Introduction

This episode is a brief introduction by the Host, Matthew. The world as we knew is changing around us. COVID-19 is shifting sand that a few predicted, but no one prepared for. Our 21st century brand of living is facing an existential threat, and now, more than ever, do we need access to domain experts, who will help us get answers to the questions we didn’t know we had. Cue, the New Normal Show.